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Hi, I'm new... I actually joined this community some time ago, but left lj for personal reasons.

Well, now I'm back with some questions for those in the Missouri area.
I have had some financial issues and concerns throughout my pregnancy.
Firstly, I don't qualify for Medicaid or any kind of assistance because I don't show up on a pregnancy test.
I tried to take a blood test, however, I have a very severe phobia of needles and hospitals which actually drove me to injure my husband because of the insensitivity of the institution I went to, attempting to have this done.
My poor hunny had marks on his hands for 8 weeks because of this.
I tried to have it done, but they refused to do the regular finger stick like they told us, they wanted to draw vials of blood.
I panicked.

Plus, our insurance isn't covering anything right now because of possibly our deductible, or because they simply don't cover prenatal visits. We called and asked, and they assured us pregnancy wasn't considered a pre-existing condition.
But, they might have changed policy.

Still, I've been looking for a job with no luck, so we can attempt to not worry about the financial side, and it just isn't working.
We can't afford to get the prenatal exam done otherwise!

We weren't trying to get pregnant either, being on 2 forms of birth control.
But now that its happened, I'm looking into options.

Which leads me to the point of my post.
I can't afford a midwife, because my due date is supposedly next month.
And I am afraid that when I check into a hospital, which petrifies me anyway, they'll want my hospital records. Of which I have none.
I am a natural health practitioner, and can easily keep track of my health, and so far am healthy with no deficiencies.
If I do an unassisted birth, what do I do afterwards, to certify the birth, to get the SSN and birth certificate? I really have my hands tied here, and the "free" places, like planned parenthood, and the PCC aren't helping me.
I'm very open to suggestions. Thanks for any help in advance.
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From:raving_liberal
Date:April 8th, 2010 12:52 am (UTC)
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This link might answer some questions.
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 8th, 2010 01:29 am (UTC)
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thanks so much. that helps wonders! one more thing, is a medical checkup required before sending off for the certificate? i'm not a member, so it won't let me ask.
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From:tobeborn
Date:April 8th, 2010 10:03 pm (UTC)
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There is no medical anything required. I had a home birth in MO last year (with a midwife) and we did just as the mothering link said, called to get the form, filled out and sent it back in, the midwife never had to sign anything. It was actually a lot simpler than I thought it was going to be.
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From:mamiesgoo
Date:April 8th, 2010 08:50 pm (UTC)
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What makes you believe you are pregnant?
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 8th, 2010 09:04 pm (UTC)
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I'm sorry, when was that in question?
I've felt quickening, I've grown several cup sizes, I have stretch marks, I'm fat, and I've felt kicking.
It's either that or an alien.

I did mention in my post possibly being due sometime next month. The signs are there or my concern wouldn't be!
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From:mamiesgoo
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
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I'm not pregnant and feel movement a lot. I'm not saying you are or aren't but I am saying there are a lot of different conditions which cause pregnancy like symptoms which aren't in fact pregnancy.

If you go to an ER without insurance they will give you an ultrasound if you have a neg pregnancy test but show these symptoms to rule out other issues too.
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From:justuschickens
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:40 pm (UTC)
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I second this. Go to the ER, they will not refuse treatment. Most hospitals will work out a payment plan with you for the bill. Your health is worth this.
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From:theretohere
Date:April 8th, 2010 09:50 pm (UTC)
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Is there a reason you deleted my comment? I still think that you should consider seeing a doctor and getting some form of pregnancy test.
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 8th, 2010 10:43 pm (UTC)
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Yes, actually.
You pretty much ignored my post, and I wanted to spare you the indignity of answering your questions which were in my post to begin with.
I live in Missouri. I have taken several tests which show up negative.
I can't afford four hundred dollars or more to see a doctor which my insurance will not cover at present. Are you offering to help me pay?

As such, your comments included things I already knew, and were slightly rude.
Better?
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From:theretohere
Date:April 9th, 2010 12:35 am (UTC)
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The indignity? LOL. I saw your post, and I understood it. I think that you need to explore the fact that you could be experiencing pseudocyesis and that's why you aren't getting a positive test.
I also think this is probably a troll post.
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From:theretohere
Date:April 9th, 2010 12:39 am (UTC)
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PS- I'm hardly the only person thinking the same thoughts around here.
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From:justuschickens
Date:April 8th, 2010 10:39 pm (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_pregnancy

Don't assume you're pregnant just because you have those symptoms. If you're not showing up as pregnant on urine tests, get double checked with an ultrasound. Plenty of women have been very surprised (and upset) to learn that what they thought was a pregnancy wasn't. I recently saw a news story about a woman who was induced and sectioned because she had pseudocyesis.
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 8th, 2010 10:53 pm (UTC)
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And how precisely can I afford one that my insurance won't cover?
False pregnancy doesn't include movement and kicking. Had those.
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From:princessenoire
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:28 pm (UTC)
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As a note, the feeling of movement is actually present in a large proportion of women suffering from pseudocyesis.
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From:justuschickens
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:36 pm (UTC)
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From the link:

The second most common physical sign of pseudocyesis is menstrual irregularity (50–90%). Women are also reported to experience the sensation of fetal movements known as quickening, even though there is no fetus present (50–75%). Other common signs and symptoms include gastrointestinal symptoms, breast changes or secretions, labor pains, uterine enlargement, and softening of the cervix. One percent of women eventually experience false labor.
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 9th, 2010 01:20 am (UTC)
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I've felt kicking, as well as quickening. That is not synthesized by my mind. Others have felt this, as well as myself.
Please refrain from commenting further. I see no further positive influence from our communications.

Pleasant day.
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From:justuschickens
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC)
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Oh, one other possible solution for affording it. I don't normally advocate anything having to do with these places, but many crisis pregnancy centers (including many of those in Missouri) have free ultrasounds.
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 9th, 2010 01:19 am (UTC)
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Not ours. If you want to have an abortion, sure, but my last period was in August.
Way past that. Now they won't even bat an eyelash.
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From:princessenoire
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:27 pm (UTC)
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Do you have any sort of insurance at all? If so, then your insurance should be willing to cover an abdominal u/s that could rule in/out pregnancy. No, it likely would not be categorized as "OB u/s" or some such, but feeling movement, etc., and testing negative for pregnancy at the same time, would seem to indicate some further looking into.

How did you determine your estimated due date? Through when you felt quickening? What forms of birth control were you on? I ask these questions because it appears that you've had no care at all despite some issues with the pregnancy. Obviously women can provide their own prenatal care, but I would think there's enough here to justify a check with someone.

What did Planned Parenthood say when you spoke to them?
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From:princessenoire
Date:April 8th, 2010 11:29 pm (UTC)
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Also, have you tried the Health Dept?
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From:amberangelica
Date:April 9th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)
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yes. They can only provide the urine tests. If I don't show up on one, I'm out of luck.

Planned Parenthood charges extravagently for everything.
the Pregnancy Care Center would only give me an ultrasound if I were considering having an abortion. I'm waaay past that now, (approx..30 weeks?) and so, they will have nothing to do with me.

Our deductible (1200? I think?) has not been met. We can't afford to pay it right now.
I have not had issues with my pregnancy. I have had issues with the STATE.
It IS categorized as OB work, because I did try to have some work done (as stated in my entry, if you have read it), and it was categorized as such, and thusly, not covered.

I'm sorry. I have answered all questions I feel are necessary to answer.
I have looked into all affordable options, and have found none that are willing to work with me.
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From:nerdular
Date:April 9th, 2010 03:37 pm (UTC)
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im really confused as to how/why a pregnancy wouldnt show up on a urine test? is this actually something that happens? crazy.

my midwife charged $50 for an ultrasound. my insurance wasn't involved at all. maybe you can look into something like that? are there any birthing centers in your area? they are usually much cheaper than traditional doctors/hospitals.

best of luck to you.
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From:mamiesgoo
Date:June 2nd, 2010 06:25 am (UTC)
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Wondering about how you're doing recently??
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From:lowiness
Date:June 3rd, 2010 04:57 am (UTC)
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I know I'm coming to this late, but have you checked out the MDC Unassisted Birth forums? There are lots of women there who have had/are planning UC. I'm sure you could get lots of advice there. :) My last birth was UC and I got a lot of info from there.
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